I have also let them know and I notice they still advertise them as ornates. I agree completely. When I begin to sell my macros I want people to know they are getting macros and not some light phase northern. It would be great if we could get all the people selling dbts to call them by their proper names no matter how “screamer” they are. We have to start somewhere to try and get this problem cleared up. Often when I see someone on one of the lists calling a dbt by the wrong name I will email them and try to clear up the confusion. I think that some of the sellers out there are mis-labeling on purpose to get a higher price. But that is really defeating because the buyer is less likely to buy from them again if they didn’t get what they thought they were getting. My 2 cents worth….. Vickie modelgrafx@… wrote: