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  • Carmen
    April 10, 2008 at 8:48 am #21780

    Hi Friends, I guess I just don’t live right. Putting together everything for his new tank I notice that one of the media containers is cracked. I don’t even use it but I guess it is needed to weigh the cartridges down.. Anyway, while I am at it, I figure I should clarify a few things. Thank you for all your help! 25% water changes weekly. Does this mean to also take everything out of the tank and clean it? Rinse the filter cartridges, etc.? Or does this mean to only take out 25% of the water and replace it. The hose that I use to drain the water. It kind of looks dark in some parts. I guess maybe it retains some moisture from when I use it and it look a little ‘mildewy’… I’m not sure if I should try to clean it or just chuck it and start again. If so, how do I keep this from happening in the future? Also, the hose does not suck from the bottom. I mean it does but it does not pull up anything but water. The one I have attaches to the sink. Is there another kind that I could use that is better? Please let me know. Filtration. Do I need any other filtration besides the Emperor? Is this sufficient to keep his water clean? As always, thanks for your help. Carmen __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    DGGrekoff@aol.com
    April 10, 2008 at 11:31 am #21781

    In a message dated 4/10/08 5:48:50 AM, kactusgurl@… writes: As always, thanks for your help. Carmen Gee, Carmen, good questions …. but ask 3 and you’ll get 10 answers – and they could all be “right.” Let me share what I do and maybe this will give you some ideas. First, I do mega water changes, like 50-75% My reasoning is simple; if I’m already changing it, why not go all the way? Changing is easy for me. I have a commercial aquarium plastic tube – the largest one I could find. I only use the tube, not the vinyl tubing that came with it. Instead I use a hose I bought from OSH (Orchard Home Supply). The hose is a special “potable” water hose made to be used for trailers and campers for drinking water. You may find this kind of hose elsewhere. Mine is white with blue twisted stripes. I use two 12′ lengths put together. The hose has no toxic or carcinagentic compounds. I cut off the male end and the end of the tube fits right into it tight. I put the female end out the door, use the tube to start the suction and the vacuum is quite strong and cleans the crushed coral well. No buckets to dump! Now comes filling. I make this easy too. My wife bought a dog washing station a while back that supplied a spiffy device – a water regulator caleed “Tropic Shower.”. It would be easy to make one of these if you can’t find it and easy to do. It consists of two “Y”s that go on both of your close washer outlets. One of the ends attaches to your washer hoses, the other goes to another “Y”**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

    Carmen
    April 10, 2008 at 12:16 pm #21782

    Hi DG, Thanks for the ideas. I am a little confused, maybe a picture would help. I will show this to my brother. He’s pretty handy so maybe he can help me find and put together this type of hose. I’m not sure if you’re message got cut off or I wore you out but anyway, you’re whole message is still attached here. I just really feel like I do not know what I am doing. When his tank was smaller I used to wheel it into the bathtub and bleach it [very diluted] when I cleaned it. Since it has been bigger and I just got him a bigger tank still, I have not been able to do this. I have just emptied and refilled and cleaned everything inside. It wasn’t really getting cleaned that way (ya think?). The tech says to wash it with soap and water and keep wiping it out, etc. I keep thinking, all these people that care for dbt’s there has to be an easier way. A proper way to take care of him without having a breakdown, feeling like a bad mom who’s doing everything wrong. I wish there was a show on tv, like when they come and clean your closets out and show you how to dress. Where they show you how to take care of your pet properly. Like they come in and do your whole tank setup. Did you see the guy who got waterbeds and mood music for his cows? Sorry, off topic. Thanks again.DGGrekoff@… wrote:

    DGGrekoff@aol.com
    April 10, 2008 at 12:21 pm #21783

    In a message dated 4/10/08 5:48:50 AM, kactusgurl@… writes: As always, thanks for your help. Carmen Sorry about the previous post – it was sent by accident. Gee, Carmen, good questions …. but ask 3 and you’ll get 10 answers – and they could all be “right.” Let me share what I do and maybe this will give you some ideas. First, I do mega water changes, like 50-75% My reasoning is simple; if I’m already changing it, why not go all the way? Changing is easy for me. I have a commercial aquarium plastic tube – the largest one I could find. I only use the tube, not the vinyl tubing that came with it. Instead I use a hose I bought from OSH (Orchard Home Supply). The hose is a special “potable” water hose made to be used for trailers and campers for drinking water. It didn’t cost much more than a regular hose. You may find this kind of hose elsewhere. Mine is white with blue twisted stripes. I use two 12′ lengths put together. The hose has no toxic or carcinogenic compounds. I cut off the male end and the end of the tube fits right into it tight. I put the female end out the front door, use the tube to start the suction and the vacuum is quite strong and cleans the crushed coral substrate well. No buckets to dump! Now comes filling. I make this easy too. My wife bought a dog washing station a while back that supplied a spiffy device – a water regulator called “Tropic Shower.” It would be easy to make one of these if you can’t find it and easy to do. It consists of two “Y”s that go on both of your cloths washer outlets. One of the ends attaches to your washer hoses, the other ends go to another “Y.” The “Tropic Shower” has sealed short hoses, but you can do this with a short hose that has male and females ends. The hot water “Y” has a valve to control the amount of hot water going into the “Y” that feeds the hose to the tank. (Please see bottom of http://www.northcoastmarines.com/booster_bath.htm) The cold has no control. If you make it yourself all the ends of the “Y” will have these valves. This is the way the “new and improved Tropic Showers” is made (please see http://www.doolittlespetproducts.com/tropicshower.html). You can probably make this for under $25 or just buy the assembled type for about $50. This is well worth it to me for the ease and simplicity and the best thing is my wife bought it for the dogs! Anyway, I connect the female end of the hose to the regulator and place the end the suction tube was on into the tank WITH THE TUBE OFF – very important because the tube has a one-way valve and will blow off if water is forced into it. I then turn the hot water valve to about halfway and then turn the valve that connects to the hose. Thus the hot water supplied is about 50% and the cold is full strength. This works for me, but you’ll need to adjust it for your use. The water then flows into the tank at about 80-82F. It’s a good idea to make sure the hose going into the tank is stationary! Using this system I can drain out 50-70% and refill a 55 gallon tank in 20 minutes and keep the temp where it was. I then put the end of the hose outside, disconnect the end from the regulator and drain the hose as I roll it up and I store it in the laundry room. Water changing made easy! Remember to unplug your filter and heater before draining. Remember to plug them back in after – this is the easy part. Speaking of the filter, I use the Tetra Whisper with “Bio Bags.” I change the filter pads during the draining. I don’t do this once a week – I do it 2 or three times a week. That means water changes too. 2 or three times a week. I also use cichlid salts to buffer the water – a cheap type that works well is Top Fins “Conditioning Salt.” Cleaning everything in the tank is really up to you to decide when it is needed. Water quality is what I consider most important and well-filtered, “clean-looking” dirty water is still dirty and unhealthy. That’s why I change the water out 2 or three times a week. Dimitri**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

    heather polechio
    April 10, 2008 at 1:45 pm #21784

    HI Carmen, — I have kept DBs for only about two years now so I beleive that still lands me in the catagory of rookie!!-.- The water quality is something that Im sure there is ample detailed info on if you look in the right places ( try searching around online and finding a good qualifed website).–I know that there are a few members here that have great websites. one thing that I can tell you is I dont think that it is nessaccary to do a “major scrub down” cleaning using soap or bleach very often.- Infact ( someone correct me please if Im wrong…) I think that you want to keep a bit of grime so that you dont wipe out ALL of the bacteria…- Yea turtles are dirty little buggers that poop ALOT!! But there is benefit in leaving some water and a little grime generally during water changes, not all bacteria is bad and if you wipe it all out your tank has to recondition– blahblah – important info to learn about but not from me .– If you have adequate filtration for your size tank and turtle population that will help alot.– — So I have 120G tank three turtles all apx 4.5 inches across the shell front to back.- I have two filters each filter does 110gallons of water- therefore I have a 120G tank with twice the ammount of filtration needed normally…- I do a 90% water change once a month and scrub any algea away and change filter cartridges at that time. Once a week I do a 25% water change.- I actually never do any type of hard core scrub down with soap or anything.- If you have your water quality correct I believe that it kind of takes care of itself.– – Just think about it like thiis..- In their natural habitat new water is constantly washing away old water – but not 100% new water comes at any point in time- it is a continuous cycle of a bit of new replaces a bit of old. we have to try and replicate this in captivity.- Hope this helps. — Heather — DGGrekoff@… wrote: http://www.doolittlespetproducts.com/tropicshower.html). (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    Jimbo Craig
    April 10, 2008 at 2:04 pm #21785

    OK, maybe it’s just me, but it seems that some folks are creating more work for themselves than necessary??? IMO, as long as you are properly OVER-filtering your tank and keeping up with your weekly partial water changes, I don’t see any reason to do TOTAL tank “break downs” or HUGE 80 to 90% water changes??? And by partial water changes, most people do anywhere from 10 to 25%………….meaning they take out 25% of the tank water and replace it with clean/fresh water (plus a little extra for evaporation). Anything over that is just over-kill in my opinion and just extra work that isn’t necessary. Don’t make this fun hobby any harder on yourself then it already is. Run a 10 to 20% bleach/water solution thru your dirty water line and that should clean it up for you. Rinse well afterwards and then rinse well with real hot water EVERY time you use it and that should keep it clean from then on. Most people use External Canister filters on their Turtle Tanks, so your Emperor may not be cutting the mustard anymore???? What size tank do you have?

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