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  • M Whilden
    July 23, 2007 at 9:33 am #25153

    FEATURE-Texas turtles ending up in China soup pots 23 Jul 2007 13:03:41 GMT Source: Reuters By Anna Driver HOUSTON, June 23 (Reuters) – Growing up in East Texas, Dian Avriett loved to watch the turtles sunning on the banks of local rivers and lakes. But now she says it’s rare to see them on those same waterways, and the reason is clear — China’s taste for Texas turtle meat. Hundreds of thousands have been sold to dealers who ship the animals to Asia where the meat is considered a delicacy with health benefits. Some also fetch high prices around the world as pets. “In Texas, anyone with a $50 dollar non-game permit can take as many (turtles) as they want,” said Avriett, who chairs the Piney Woods group of the Sierra Club. Global turtle populations are at risk, but conservationists said the problem is growing acute in Texas where there are no limits on the collection of unprotected varieties. An average of 94,442 turtles per year are taken by dealers, mostly for export from the state, according to figures from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD). Data from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request showed more than 267,000 wild turtles were exported to Hong Kong from Dallas from 2002 to 2005, said Chris Jones, an environmental attorney who has lobbied for turtle protections. Although there are no state-wide statistics showing declines in Texas turtle population, Jones said abundant anecdotal evidence exists. For example in one section of the Rio Grande river that had been a trap site, an adult turtle has not been seen in 10 years. “They are taking them so fast the scientists can’t study them,” Jones said. Now some varieties including the Texas river cooter could have some protection because the TPWD commissioners on May 24 approved a measure to prohibit the collection of wild turtles on public land. But under that regulation, which is not yet on the books as law, collectors may harvest three varieties of turtles on private land; the red-eared slider, the common snapping turtle and five types of soft-shell turtles. SLOW GOING Turtles need protection from overharvesting because they are slow to mature and their young have a high mortality rate, said Lee Fitzgerald, an associate professor of herpetology at Texas A&M University who has published research on the Texas turtle trade. “Their population can’t take the removal of adults,” said Fitzgerald. “If it continues, the population will collapse.” For example he said it takes a female box turtle 15 years to reach sexual maturity. Once at that stage she lays four or five eggs, and most of the hatchlings will not survive. But Bob Popplewell, the state’s largest exporter of live turtles to Asia, disagrees. He said there are plenty of turtles in Texas. And many are a nuisance to ranchers who say the turtles eat fish eggs and birds, and overcrowd their lakes and ponds, he said. “People tell me they don’t want one nasty, stinking turtle in their lake,” said Popplewell, who is known as “Bayou Bob.” “I’ve seen a decent-sized snapper pull down a full-grown goose. They are trained, stealthy predators.” Popplewell, who said he has received threats from animal rights activists, works with a network of hundreds of trappers across Texas who who can earn up to $20 an hour for their work. Once snared in net traps, the turtles are shipped to Asia by plane, he said. The parties are divided over whether the state’s proposed limits will protect the turtle population. Popplewell said 99 percent of the turtles his people harvest come from private lakes, so the changes will have little effect on his business. Texas A&M’s Fitzgerald described the protection measure as a step in the right direction, while conservationists say there should be a total ban on commercial turtle collection.

    Richard M. Biondi
    July 23, 2007 at 11:26 am #25154

    I had seen this article earlier—unfortunately, I don’t think the new regulations will help much. Texas did not enter the Union from territorial status, (Texas was not part of the Louisiana Purchase, nor acquired under the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo),. Texas was a nation in her own right for 10 years. There is hardly any “public” land in that state. In any event, most rivers, creeks, lakes and ponds are on private land anyway. Duh! How’s about the appallingly self-serving “anecdotes” from Old Bob Popplewell regarding snapping turtles downing full-sized geese, eating fish eggs and birds, and overcrowding “their” lakes and ponds. Patent nonsense. Has this man ever heard the word “ecology?” “People tell me they don’t want one nasty, stinking turtle in their lake,” according to the esteemed “Bayou Bob.” That foolish statement reminds me of another pronouncement uttered by an Illinois legislator back in the 70s, who wanted all wolves and coyotes eliminated because they preyed on innocent wildlife. “Plenty of turtles in Texas?” Old Bob misspoke. He meant to say “plenty of nasty, stinking turtles in Texas.” One personal note. I grew up outside San Antonio: as a kid I swam with the big softshells in the creek down the bluff in back of our house (Not to mention the water moccasins). Was that my creek? Could I propose and dispose of the critters who lived in it without further consideration? Were those turtles mine to sell to gourmands in Hong Kong? I think not.

    James Floyd
    July 25, 2007 at 1:20 am #25156

    Well said, Richard. I live in rural Parker County, Texas, west of Fort Worth, and have seen one box turtle in 5 years. It’s a relatively dry area, with a few creeks and rivers, but with populations of redeared sliders. Now suddenly even RES are a rare sight. A friend of mine spent last weekend on the Sabine River, observing not a single turtle of any species. It’s difficult to contemplate that almost overnight the aquatic landscape has changed. Jim Floyd —– Original Message —-From: Richard M. Biondi

    Stephen Chew
    July 26, 2007 at 12:50 pm #25157

    Jim, I’ve got a trip planned for the Guadalupe River next month and hope to see some turtles. The last time we went, we saw a bunch of texas cooters, a couple of stinkpots and a lone softie. Hopefully we get to add cagles to our list this time around. -Stephen C — In diamondbackterrapins@yahoogroups.com, James Floyd

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