Woo-hoo!!! Another believer!!! For years, the “experts” recommended this and that vitamins for lizards and then we found out that we were actually overdosing and poisoning them – no wonder we couldn’t keep many of them alive. So what if their instruments don’t measure certain wavelengths of uvblmnop’s?!?! Who’s to say what the turtles need? I actually get better results with the GE full spectrum bulbs than I did from any reptile bulbs! I had $45 reptile bulbs burning out in 2 days! And while I am ranting and raving (it’s morning, rather than my 10pm answering my emails and I’ve got coffee starting to make the rounds), get rid of that reptomin!!! Just throw it out!!! I threw my last several boxes (jumbo size, not cheap) in the trash! It was very liberating! No more gray muck! No more some turtles dying, (rarely anyway), some turtles developing soft shell! Zoomed hatchling diet!!! (I receive no remedial compensation for this.) I love it! Even better, my turtles love it!!! Free yourselves from the tyranny of special reptile bulbs and reptomin, and gasp, while you’re at it – chuck the old containers of any wardleys products – ugh! I can’t believe they’re still in the business of making turtle foods. I have turtles that will eat anything – scrap produce, each other’s tails and feet, roadkill, young possums, grackles, my toes – and they won’t touch wardleys! Oh, I hear there are a few wardleys believers out there – there must be somebody buying their stuff. These are a few of my favorite things. I’ll be quiet now. Rantingly and ravingly yours, Rick PS, maybe I should start buying GE full spectrum bulbs and repackaging them as Uncle Rick’s Extraspecial UVB&C Supercoated Strongtium LMNOP Lightning Turtle Bulbs and resell them for $69.95. I could retire early out to the old turtle farm. I’ll be quiet now. Jonathan Helms wrote: