betadine

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  • Maggie Cummings
    January 29, 2005 at 12:33 pm #20710

    I was told by my reptile Vet that after the initial treatment with betadine you should switch to Nolvasan because betadine kills the white blood cells needed for recovery. I dry dock my animal, gently debride the lesion, coat with betadine and leave under the light all day. About every other hour I coat with Nolvasan. For 1 hour a day I put the animal into clean water to eat and drink, then back to dry dock. I have been very successful using this method.

    northeastsnakes@aol.com
    January 29, 2005 at 12:38 pm #20711

    Is Nolvasan an antibiotic? If so, is it available at pharmacies? In a message dated 1/29/2005 12:35:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, maggie-c@… writes: ————————————————————–
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    Michelle E. McGuffin
    January 29, 2005 at 3:37 pm #20714

    Betadine and Nolvasan (chlorhexidine) are both biocides. Betadine can have cytotoxic effects if used straight on skin tissues but if diluted 1:10 with water will still allow wound healing apparently. http://www.rxmed.com/b.main/b2.pharmaceutical/b2.1.monographs/CPS-%20Mon ographs/CPS-%20(General%20Monographs-%20B)/BETADINE_TOPICAL.html http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=164308 Nolvasan (chlorhexidine) reportedly has microbial resistance issues and is thought to be linked to antibiotic resistance as resistance to both are encoded on the same plasmid. Taken from my post on another group: ___It (Chlorhexidine) is used in ear cleaning solutions (caution ___ ototoxic), dental rinses, antibacterial creams, floor/surface cleaners etc as well as the scrubs you mentioned. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/rpsgb/jpp/2000/00000052/00000002/a rt00014 The following was taken from: http://www.niv.ac.za/lessons/current/les8_2.htm# “Some strains of MRSA may be resistant to antiseptics. # Povidone__iodine and chlorhexidine are commonly used antiseptics that are active against methicillin__susceptible Staph. aureus. # The susceptibility of both MRSA and methicillin__susceptible Staph. aureus has been tested against various agents at varying concentrations, including:__ * 4% chlorhexidine__gluconate__alcohol (Hibicol__) * 1% p__chloro__m__xylenol * 3% hexachlorophene (Phisohex__) * 10% povidone__iodine (Betadine__) # Povidone__iodine, diluted 1:100, is the most rapidly bactericidal agent against all strains, killing all within 15 seconds. # It has been found that the in vitro activity of povidone__iodine against MRSA is superior to that of chlorhexidine over a wide range of dilutions. # Hypochlorite has been found to be the most effective agent for disinfection of MRSA on inanimate objects (fomites). # Resistance of MRSA to chlorhexidine is encoded on a plasmid which also confers resistance to gentamicin and nucleic acid-binding compounds. # However, the clinical significance of chlorhexidine resistance has been questioned and currently there are insufficient recommendations about the optimal antiseptic for MRSA.” I have used chlorhexidine in the past and I know I will use it again as it is beneficial in many ways… but I would prefer to use something else (if I can) that doesn’t have the potential for problems. The betadine now has me concerned due to possible iodine toxicity… which is why I’m looking at other options… and perhaps Chlorhexidine is the next best thing! I likely am just being paranoid… wouldn’t be the first time!!_ This is what drove me to look for other options___ and re-found the GSE I had sitting in my cupboard. It is available in the local healthfood type stores. Michelle —–Original Message—– From: northeastsnakes@… [mailto:northeastsnakes@…] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:37 AM To: diamondbackterrapins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [diamondbackterrapins] betadine Is Nolvasan an antibiotic? If so, is it available at pharmacies? In a message dated 1/29/2005 12:35:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, maggie-c@… writes: ————————————————————–
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