FW: [diamondbackterrapins] how about a little food talk……..

[Michelle E. McGuffin]

Michelle E. McGuffin

May 18, 2005 at 4:27 pm #21050

Crazy me again… edit it so it fails to make sense. …One would have to do some serious interrogation at the pet store to ensure none of the inhabitants in the tank are in fact wild caught… Michelle —–Original Message—– From: Michelle E. McGuffin [mailto:me.mcguffin@…] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:19 PM To: ‘diamondbackterrapins@yahoogroups.com’ Subject: RE: [diamondbackterrapins] how about a little food talk…….. Snails and mollusks are common carriers of flatworms and other parasites that complete part of their live cycle in turtles, fish and/or birds. When introducing live plants into a tank one often unknowingly introduces snails as well. Plants are often “contaminated” with snail eggs. Even purchasing fish from a tank with snails in it can bring home some “friends”. Ramshorn snails are typically freshwater snails and therefore present a greater concern for parasitic infection than the salt water snails (from what I’ve gathered in my readings but don’t know how accurate this is in the real world). Captive bred snails would be safer I would think. One would have to do some serious interrogation at the pet store to ensure none of the inhabitants in the tank are in fact not wild caught… even then most stores run their tanks on shared filtration systems… Treating the snails is not generally feasible as what will kill a worm will usually kill a snail too. You can often find saltwater snails destined to be escargot in the live seafood section of your grocery store or fish market. I tried these with my wild-caught diamondbacks in my attempts at getting them to eat something other than shrimp and frozen fish and to perhaps get some natural calcium into them as they won’t touch cuttlebone etc… They didn’t touch them. The snails did make the tank more interesting to watch though… until they died from the elevated temperatures (they prefer cold ocean water to the warm water we keep in our tanks). Amazing how TERRIBLE a dead snail smells and how it can contaminate a tank! Something to think on… Michelle —–Original Message—– From: diamondbackterrapins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diamondbackterrapins@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Branden Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM To: diamondbackterrapins@yahoogroups.com Subject: [diamondbackterrapins] how about a little food talk…….. Hey all, been wondering a little about snails and DBT’s. Which if any would work for feeding? How about the Columbian Ramshorn snails, which of course do breed rather quickley. Would these be a worthy candidate for another food to feed? I’ve been thinking about setting up a tank to breed these in but need to know if they will work or not, or maybe someone has a better idea? Right now, I’m just getting ready for the DBT’s. I’ve been bugging Helms(sorry man) for far too long with my various questions, so now I’m turning to the e-group. Also, what do other breeders feed their DBT hatchlings? I’m planning on a combo of worms, prepared pellets, snails(?), and whatever else you folks can recommend. This has been 3 years in the making, and I’ve decided to make this the year to dive into DBT’s, so I appologize if I ask too many questions, but this is what I do. Thanks to all for your replies, your info is appreciated more than you know. Thanks Branden Yahoo! Groups Links — No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 – Release Date: 5/17/2005 — No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 – Release Date: 5/17/2005 — No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 – Release Date: 5/17/2005 — No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 – Release Date: 5/17/2005

[Branden Portillo]

Branden Portillo

May 18, 2005 at 4:45 pm #21051

Thanks Michelle, I don’t think I will be trying snails, but I still wonder how great Rep Cal ATD is? Hmmmmm, I will have to dig deeper, unless anyone else knows? Branden“Michelle E. McGuffin”

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